4 BIG Baseball Hitting Misconceptions Youth Coaches Teach (that MLB players DON’T DO!)

What’s up guys, Coach Madden, YouGoProBaseball.com
and I’m here with Antonelli from Antonelli Baseball. Finally. Got down here. People have been asking for us to get together
and we’re here. We’re here. I’m glad you’re here. Thank you for coming. Thank you for having me. And we’re going to talk about the 4 big misconceptions
in hitting today. Let’s do it. And I want to hear your take on some of them. The first one is getting your front foot down
early is that a good piece of advice, bad piece of advice, what’s your take? Yeh sure, so I think you hear this all the
time with coaches, youth coaches, get your foot down early. Anytime a guy fouls a ball back or maybe takes
a pitch it’s always because the front foot isn’t down early enough. Let’s go back, there’s a couple of different
things I think you’ve got to cover. The first thing is there’s a bunch of different
ways to stride and so the front foot is going to get down at a little bit different time
for every hitter. So if you’ve got a guy like Josh Donaldson
who’s going to have a bigger stride, He’s going to typically get his front foot down
when the ball is about half way to the plate. That’s what you typically see with guys with
normal strides so if you’ve got a guy with a leg kick like a Donaldson or you see just
more of a typical standard stride, usually the front foot is going to get down when the
ball is about half way. But you’re also going to have some hitters
who are a little bit different. If you think about like an Albert Pujols who
kind of just does this move and he just kind of puts his toe down. Or like a Curtis Granderson who will put his
foot down really really early and now he’s going to keep getting loaded and keep getting
ready, they’re going to get their foot down a lot earlier but sometimes coaches see that
and they say “see, you’ve got to get your foot down early. You should have your foot down before the
pitcher even starts his windup or release the ball”. So, it’s a little bit of a case by case basis. Some guys again are going to get down when
the ball is half way. That’s perfectly fine. That’s what you actually typically see. The foot will get down when the ball is about
half way to the plate and that’s when the swing is really going to launch but again
if you’ve got a guy like Pujols who’s going to put his foot down a little bit earlier,
that’s fine too. The thing that you’ll notice is even when
they get their foot down for guys like a Pujols or a guy like Granderson, they’re still loading
even though their foot is down. So they’re not swinging, they’re not just
putting their foot down and just stop everything is dead, momentum is dead, I’m not getting
loaded anymore, they don’t do that. They put it down, they keep getting loaded
and now they launch at almost that same point when the ball is half way to the plate. So, what you don’t want to see, what youth
hitters do when they hear “oh I gotta get my foot down early” is they get their foot
down, the pitcher hasn’t even released the ball and now they’re just stopped. They’re not getting pulled back, they’re not
getting loaded anymore and now it’s “wait for the ball to come” and just try to take
an arm swing. That’s where you get in trouble. So, I’m a firm believer that you can get ready
too late obviously if the ball is past you and your foot is not down, that’s a problem. But you can also get ready too early. Have my foot down so early where my momentum
stops, I’m not getting pulled back or loaded and now I’m basically have to start the swing
from a stand still. I can’t create anything with that either. Timing and momentum is in my opinion is everything
in hitting because as a pitcher I’m trying to mess up your timing and your balance. So, that’s huge. Quick piggy back off that, what was your stride? So, it’s funny because, let’s say this, I
changed a couple times during my career. I was almost always a wider guy with my foot
down. I’d do that little tap with my toe but again
if you watched me I put my foot down but I’d keep loading and then when my heel dropped
that’s when I would go. So, that’s how I typically did it. Now, when I got to the Major Leagues actually
they wanted to give me a leg kick and one of the reasons was I think they thought that
I was getting down too early it’s funny that we’re talking about this and so I started
to try to do a leg kick and I just couldn’t figure it out because I’m used to, I think
you’re used to a certain rythm and my rythm was always this boom and hit and now all of
a sudden I’m trying to do this and I just couldn’t figure it out. So that’s why I don’t try to tell anybody
“you have to stride like this, you have to get your foot down at this time”. All I tell them is that they’ve got to be
ready to go, the swing has got to launch when that ball is about half way there. Now whether you want to do this or whether
you want to do this, that’s up to you and then if you’re too late, if you notice that
a guy is too late because some guys don’t get their foot down on time and they are late. I don’t always tell them “get your foot down
earlier”. I tell them “you’ve got to get this foot off
the ground sooner. You have to be ready to launch the swing when
the ball is about half way there”. So, now instead of thinking “oh I’ve got to
get my foot down and start right here” I’m just thinking “ok, when do I got to get this
foot up” depending on what my load is and what my stride is do I have to get it up here,
do I have to get it up a little bit later? So now I’m able to kind of look at the pitcher
when I’m on the on deck circle and figure out when do I got to get ready. When do I got to get my foot up so that I’m
on time getting it down. Three things that stood out to me from what
you just said right there, rythm, timing, and momentum. I think that pretty much sums all that up. Have that good rythm, that good timing, and
good momentum. The second misconception that I want to talk
about is don’t drop your hands. You hear coaches all the time “don’t drop
your hands, keep your hands up, keep them high”. What do you think about that? Yeh so I think there’s different ways just
like there’s different ways to stride, there’s different ways to load. So I’m never going to personally take a hitter
and just because their hands are lower say “hey you can’t do that man you’ve got to keep
your hands up” because there have been plenty of really good hitters that load with their
hands dropping a little bit. So you’ll see all different stuff. You’ll see some hitters that just kind of
go and pull straight back right here. You’ll see some hitters that start to pull
back here and all they do is stride and they’re back already. You’ll see some guys that really tip the bat
this way and then go and you’ll see some guys that pump the bat down low. You’ve got like a Barry Bonds, you know Barry
Bonds used to pump his hands down and then they’d come up. Josh Donaldson they’re kind of here and then
they come up. So there’s all different ways to do it and
so my thing is as long as when you’re starting to move forward whether they’re going down
or just back, whatever they’re doing they have to eventually if they go down they will
eventually start to come back up as I’m getting right here and getting stretched but I don’t
tell a player “hey you can’t go down there” because who am I to say that when there has
been plenty of hitters that go down. Just like there is hitters that go here. They do all different types of things. But they’ve got to be eventually pulled back
right here when you’re about to launch the bat. So that has a lot to do again with rythm,
timing, and momentum as well. It all kind of ties in kind of swinging from
the ground up through your kinetic chain, right? Absolutely and that’s why I wouldn’t change,
I’m not going to change a guy that has done this his whole career. We’ll get a lot of players. A young player comes up through our system
and they’re a great hitter and they get ready by doing this. Everything is predicated by having this move
in their swing and I’ve seen some coaches that will watch a guy can absolutely crush
balls, be an amazing hitter, and if it’s a coach that just said “oh no you can’t drop
your hands” then they say “that might work now but it’s not going to work at the next
level” that’s the big thing right. Well, I’ve seen plenty of guys have it work
at the next level so I’m not going to take this guy and tell him that he can’t drop his
hands just because it’s one of those old school things you can’t drop your hands. If this is how his swing works and he’s successful,
I don’t take that out of it. I just let him do it. Now, if I feel like it’s causing issues, maybe
they’re not getting back up here, maybe they’re dropping and they’re just swinging from here
and they’re not finally getting pulled back up here, then you can work on it. But just the whole idea of dropping the hands
to get loaded I don’t think is a big deal. I wouldn’t change that just for the sake of
changing it. Right and just to touch on what you said about
the coaches. You know one thing I learned later in my career
which I wish I learned earlier was you’re going to have 100 different coaches and they’re
probably going to tell you a lot of different things. Once I learned to listen to everyone, try
everything, but it’s ok to get rid of stuff that is not working or doesn’t make sense
to you and then keep the stuff that is good because you’re going to have so many different
coaches especially at the youth level down here in florida these guys are playing pretty
much all year round so they might have 2 or 3 different coaches, they’ve got private trainers,
they’ve got mom and dad, maybe grandpa is giving them advice. All this different advice once you can, instead
of trying to change your swing every single time someone tells you to do something, think
about it, try it, feel it, see what it feels like, if it’s working maybe stick with it,
if it’s not, get rid of it. It’s ok, that’s the process that you need
to go through in learning over your career and developing your own swing which is great
I agree with everything you just said there again it goes back into timing, rythm, and
momentum and swinging from the ground up. The third misconception I hear a lot is swinging
down at the ball, like you’ve got to swing down to the ball, get short to it and get
right to it. Now, before we get into that I also want to
say that we’re not trying to bash any coaches out there, especially youth coaches. A lot of you guys are volunteers, you’re putting
in hard work, and you’re trying to teach what you know. So we’re just trying to explain through our
experiences, Major League hitter here, Minor League pitcher, what we know to be true of
the game. So we’re just trying to help and I don’t want
it to come across like we’re trying to put out like we know everything. We’re just trying to let you know what has
helped us throughout the years. So, what is your take on swinging down to
the ball. Right. Well, let’s start with this and we were talking
about this earlier. I always talk about feel versus real. So most, in my opinion, most hitters feel
like they’re swinging down on the ball. That’s the feeling that they get and most
hitters when they show you, if you go talk to a Major League hitter, a lot of guys will
show you not only down to the ball, but they’ll keep going down until they make contact. Now this is the feel that a lot of players
they feel and one example of this is one of my first years with the Padres I was watching
Adrian Gonzales, a great hitter right, amazing hitter, and I heard, I watched him hit and
I heard him talking to guys and he was talking about dropping the head down on the ball and
he was showing this move of just literally being almost straight down to the ball and
so I watched him talk about that and then I’m watching him hit and I’m saying “it doesn’t
look like he’s doing exactly what he’s showing us” and that’s usually what you see with most
players is that, most really good players is they show one thing and they do something
else. So feel versus real. Feel versus real. Real is not always what you feel so I’ll start
with that. When I watch, I just put on video and I’m
watching all the best hitters, what I feel most guys do is they get the barrel behind
the ball early. So the ball, I always tell our guys, the pitcher
is standing on an elevated mound, he’s throwing overhand to a catcher that’s squatting. So the ball has to come down. Ok. Every ball is going to come down. So as a hitter what I’m trying to do is I’m
trying to get on that same plane as the pitch. The only way to do that is I’ve got to swing
my barrel when I come through the hitting zone I’ve got to be slightly up through the
ball. Ok. Now, this is pitch dependent like if you get
a ball that’s down and really away sometimes that doesn’t happen. You won’t be, you might not see the bat perfectly
behind the ball, but in general I feel like you’re typically going to see the barrel get
behind the ball, get in the hitting zone early, and then move on the same path through the
ball for a long time. So if I can do that, I tell the guys like
we have this hitting window right here and the more area I can cover, the earlier I can
get in here and stay there, well now my consistency goes way up. Because when the pitch is being thrown I don’t
know the speed, I don’t know where it’s going, I don’t know any of that. I’m reading it as it comes in. So if you think about the pitch path from
about here to the catchers mitt, I have to hit it on one of these pitch points. I don’t know which pitch point it’s going
to be. If I was that good we’d all hit 800 if we
knew exactly where we were going to make contact every single time. I’m not good enough to be that perfect all
the time. So I need to give myself some margin for error. So if I can get in the zone early and I’m
in the zone back here and I just happen to be late “oh I messed up, I thought I was going
to be here but I hit it right here” I can hit the ball that way and I can hit a line
drive. If I’m on time I can hit it there. If I’m early I can hit it there. So, I’m giving myself a chance to cover all
of those pitch points. Now, if I don’t do that, if I’m either really
down through the ball, so again the ball is coming down and I’m coming down, well now
that window just got shrunk to about this big right here. So now my timing has to be super perfect. If I’m not perfect I foul the ball off, or
I just miss it. Ok. So that’s why I think one of the common denominators
of all the really good hitters is being in that hitting window for a really really long
time. The more down you are or the same thing can
happen if you lose your barrel and you’re really up, well then same thing, you don’t
stay in that window for a long time. So it’s not just too steep of a swing, it
can also be a swing that you kind of lose the barrel and work up too much. Alright. So that’s the main point and then the last
thing I’ll say real quick is if my goal is to hit in a launch angle which is the big
thing right now. Some people will bash launch angle because
they hear launch and they think like guys are just trying to hit home runs. All we’re talking about is ball flight and
we’ve talked, I’ve talked about that forever, before launch angle was even a word, coaches
were talking to us about ball flight. So, if you’re trying to get a hit, you’re
trying to hit a line drive with some carry the ball is going to be in the air. If I can hit the ball in the air, a line drive
with carry, I’ll have more base hits. No one can debate that there’s more base hits
on balls that are over the infielders heads, line drives that get over the infielders heads,
than just hitting ground balls. So I get more base hits but it’s really hard
to hit a double on the ground. It’s really hard to hit a triple on the ground
unless I hit it right down the line and I’ve never seen anyone hit a home run on the ground. So if I want to hit extra base hits I’ve got
to hit the ball a little bit in the air. If I want to do that, the ball is coming in
slightly down and I’m swinging like this on it well then if I hit above the center of
the ball I’m going to smash it into the ground. If I hit below the center, then I usually
will kind of clip the ball and the ball goes up in the air but it’s like a flyball to shallow
right field for a right handed hitter. So if I want to drive that thing, the ball
is coming slightly down, I’m coming slightly up, now I’m able to impact it more squarely
and if I hit just below center I’ll hit the ball in the air but it won’t be straight up
in the air, now I get some carry, and if I hit it above center, I might hit a ground
ball but I’ve got a better chance of hitting a hard ground ball not just smother a ball
into the ground if I’m too steep on it. So that’s what I always talk about. Get in the zone for a long period of time
and being on the same path so I can impact it squarely and get some good ball flight
on it. One of the biggest things I see with young
hitters is they don’t, it’s hard for them to get on that plane because of what I call
the body angle, their tilt, I believe you call it posture is what you use because I’m
a big Antonelli Baseball YouTube subscriber fan which by the way you guys need to go check
out his YouTube because he’s got some really great stuff on there. So if you haven’t yet, I’ll leave the link
down below where you can subscribe to his channel but I think that’s one of and we don’t
have to elaborate on it in this video because we’re going to talk about it in another video
so definitely go check that video out but that’s a big thing is kind of setting that
body angle or posture to make it easier to get on that swing plane. Sure. So the fourth misconception or thing that
I hear a lot which I want to hear your take on is you’ll hear coaches a lot say “keep
the shoulder closed. Stay closed longer. Keep the front side closed” what’s your take
on that and how does it really work? Yeh so the move that I see a lot of players
working on is this move where they take the knob kind of to the ball and coaches don’t
want this shoulder to open. So again and it’s not just up in my area although
I see that a lot up in my area but wherever you go you’ll see a lot of players trying
to do this. They think that this is staying closed because
you always hear “stay closed, stay closed” anytime again anytime a ball is fouled off
or a ball is popped up, you’ll hear either “stop dropping your shoulder” or you’ll hear
“stay closed. Oh he’s flying open. He’s flying open.” and so they want to make
this move right here well if I don’t let this shoulder turn and I just try to keep it closed
and I try to do this move, well then I’m only literally hitting with my upper body. So I can’t create very much bat speed at all
and also typically when guys swing with just their upper body you can kind of see I’m doing
it right now, the bat doesn’t get behind the ball so I start coming in really really steep
at it. So if I want to make a good turn and we talk
a lot about getting into position, pulling back and getting into position, but then once
this launches and my barrel starts to work this way, well as that happens my upper body
has to turn. So this is allowing me to use the ground as
you talked about, use the ground, be in really good sequence, and that’s how I’m able to
create a whole lot of bat speed. Again I can’t do that if I don’t let this
shoulder get out of the way. Literally my body has to clear a path for
the bat to work into the zone and again I see this happen so much players trying to
stay on the ball and they’re just fighting against themselves. They’re literally getting in their own way
to get the bat there, instead of just let the swing happen and turn, get out of the
way, and as long as you stay over, that’s what I tell the guys, there’s a difference,
this is not pulling your shoulder out or pulling off the ball. Pulling off the ball is when you come out
of posture, you come up out of your swing, this would be pulling your shoulder out or
coming off the ball so if a player is doing this, then yeh you can say “we’ve got to keep
your shoulder on” but we don’t keep our shoulder on by doing this. We keep our shoulder on by staying over the
plate in good posture and then turning and literally I tell the guys we want to feel
like we’re staying over the plate. Don’t come up away from the plate. I want to stay over the plate like that. Now I’m on the ball. My shoulder moved but I’m on the ball. So there’s a lot of as we talked about with
the stride, hands, and shoulders, a lot of misconceptions but if you really start to
break it down just look at what Major League guys are doing. You’ll never see a Major League guy try to
fight with his shoulder in there and do that move. It just can’t create enough bat speed, can’t
get on path, you’re not going to be successful. That’s great. One of the things I tell my young hitters
is to do is to swing around an axis. So once they understand what body angle or
posture is, they create it, now I’m telling them to just stay on that axis, your spine
is the axis and you’re just swinging around that axis. So that’s great, man that’s golden information. If you guys want to hear more of what Matt’s
got to say, definitely go check out his channel man. I’m super excited that he’s here and we’ve
got some great videos for you guys so check those out. I’ll leave some of those videos over here. Don’t forget to subscribe to YouGoPro and
Antonelli Baseball and we’ll see you guys in the next video. Thanks man. Thank you.

100 thoughts on “4 BIG Baseball Hitting Misconceptions Youth Coaches Teach (that MLB players DON’T DO!)

  1. I would have liked to have heard the discussion on dropping the hands after the load is complete and the swing starts which I think is what you meant in your question. Cool video. Like both you guys. Thanks for doing it.

  2. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU !!! for about a dozen years now, I have been professing those EXACT sentiments about hitting – since I met, and starting studying hitting mechanics taught by Mike Epstein and his son Jake. Matt's statement of "Real vs. feel" is SPOT ON!! What I've learned, and what Matt speaks about – hitting instructors (even Professional players) teach one thing (swinging down to the ball specifically), but do another in actual performance. I've actually gotten into an argument with a local baseball school owner about exactly that. But of course his belittling comment of "who are you? , I've played professionally….who knows better?" really got under my skin. Keep up the GREAT WORK fellas ……..

  3. So glad you guys teamed up! Great Topic too! So annoying when the youth coaches don't know what they're talking about because their players just follow obliviously.

  4. If you listen to him, he will teach you to hit .191 and one home run. Look the foot is the key for young hitters, toe hits as pitcher release the ball, and heal hits when ball is half way to home. Some of the best advice a young hitters needs. Oh hands back and elbow up. When you stride you walk away from your hands, so you leave your hands back and move forward.one other thing, never chase a ball above your hands.

  5. I've been a fan of both you Coach John and Coach Matt because you both use the same basic principles to teach which is straight forward and to the point but in a simple way that is easy to understand for pretty much all levels/ages of players. There are so many coaches here that do the same things you talked about and yes I did them too being "Old School" however the few things I never did was try to make a player change their swings unless there was something in their swing that was causing a problem like Matt said…. and I have never told any player to keep their shoulders closed as it always seemed to cause confusion when I saw/heard other coaches tell their players that. I explained what I saw while I demonstrated what I saw so they could kind of see it then I would have them do it in slo-mo while guiding them in a way so they could feel what they did and the differences between the "bad habit" and a "good one".

    Guys it is awesome to see the collaboration of two of the best coaches on YouTube for this sport getting it done so smoothly!! Thanks again to both of you for all of the stuff you taught me and helped me teach my players here because it is just so much awesome info passed one between your channels!!! LOVE IT!!!!

  6. This is a great video. I coach 8u baseball. This video is extremely helpful regardless of how much knowledge we already have prior to watching this video.


  8. I had a coach who always stressed holding your hands back but I liked to keep my hands relaxed in front of me and wait till I start my stride. I mean……what the hell! Macguire did it that way.

  9. Wish my grandson could take personal lessons from you.
    He's been playing baseball for
    7 years, he is 15 now.
    Thanks for your great advise.

  10. I don't know if I agree with that at the 14:00 mark. I see a lot of cans of corn happening to the outfield, and it's a long swing.

  11. Would you agree that in regards to getting the front foot down the goal is to have it down on time (not early, not late)?

  12. Great Info! I have trained maybe 300 hitters tops, of those more than 60 were drafted/signed, 7 first rounders. I would have had double those number if not for the destructive coaching at the next level, both college and pro. Most of the time it starts with 7:14 "That's not going to work at this or the next level" and then the coach clones them like all the others on the team. Cannot tell you how many guys I had drafted out of high school for their power and then went unsigned out of college because their power was literally taken away from them by the college hitting coach. The hitting coach is usually an undrafted middle infielder that led the team with a slap .400 average a few years prior and he is going to force every hitter to hit just like he did,. Amateurs teaching amateurs to be amateurs. Even had pro guys fly in at the all-star break completely jack up with a no stride or early stride swing that was forced on them in minor league ball. Keep up the good work guys! Get the word out!

  13. Great job guys. I think the misconception about the foot down early is which part of the foot we're talking about. What i teach my son is that he can't start his rotation before the heal of his front foot is down on the ground. As long as the heal is down when the ball is half way to home plate, he's going to be on time, i let him decide how to get there (Pujols vs Donaldson). We have to let the kids have their own style, and teach the important aspect of the swing around it.

  14. Front foot down discussion was awful. Regardless the front foot has to be down. Regardless it's also better to be early than late. Of course perfect timing is best.

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  16. I've been coaching for 6 years now and the one thing I see others do wrong, is to try to make cookie cutter players. NOT all players are built the same, therefore, should not be coach/taught the same. Highlight their strengths and enhance their weaknesses. As long as you teach a player to be better, you've done your job as a coach. IMO. Keep up the good work gentlemen!

  17. Who ever put a thumbs down on this video is a complete idiot…you are awarded no points, and may god have mercy on your soul

  18. One of my rules when looking at hitters is that if they can keep their eyes level, the swing's probably good, almost regardless what else is happening. If you can swing without your head moving more than an inch or two that means you don't have to whip back and up because your hips didn't open or back and up because your shoulder flew open (it also means you have a steady view of the ball from release to contact).

  19. Could not agree more… Coiling to load up, no matter what your process is at the plate is severely overlooked. Matt's explanations are spot on.

  20. You have to swing down to the ball to get on plane then the bat is on an upward trajectory right at or before contact ….the key is to try to get bat to stay on plane as long as possible

  21. The best thing you said there during the "hit down on the ball" portion was "feel vs. real". That will help a-lot of us articulate what we are teaching.
    Concepts, terminology , and proper vocabulary and how to express them to a child are bigger obstacles than a coaches understanding. I liked Start sooner instead of get your foot down faster, really liked "Feel vs real" a-lot, stay in posture and over the plate or ball are way better than don't fly open. Good job fellas!

  22. Should you try to introduce your child to wood early, even though it puts them at a disadvantage, or just wait to see if they even get to a level where they need it?

  23. Absolutely spot on . It does not matter how you load , hold your hands , etc . What does matter is how your hands and hips dance together when coming through the zone .

  24. It’s strange how this applies in most sports I guess. Our local high school had a kicker, who was the biggest draw for the team. He usually put kick-offs through the goal post and commonly hit 60yd field goals. He hit several in practice at 70yds. He got was courted by every major college and went to Tennessee. Their kicking coach changed his “technique” and ruined him. He managed to make the NFL, but was nothing special. He told me that “coaches” who can not do them self, what the kids are doing, demand changes and can ruin special abilities the players may have developed.

  25. I’ve been subscribed to you both for months. I’ve learned so much. I’m ready to give Little League another attempt now.

  26. I used to play with my colleagues to baseball there was some panoramic windows near so we had to manage to avoid a broken window, and I can say what he's saying about directing the bat to the ground to hit the ball it's true and the window of ball impact became quite small and narrow which requires a great sight and reflexes this mean a lot of training

  27. Some goodk tips.Only suggestion is it looks like the back side of his body collapses a bit.If you watch Babe Ruth you notice
    he moved toward the ball without collapsing the back hip and shoulder.I tried keeping the weight on back leg,"squash the bug"
    I think it leads to more pop ups.

  28. I’ve know this stuff for a long time, but never put into words better. My hs coach taught us all of these misconceptions. I’m actually pissed because I feel cheated in my baseball career.

  29. Greetings to all! I am reaching out in hopes of helping my sons batting swing. Topics on this video directly address some concerns. BTW This video was great. My son is 8yrs old and playing second year of Select (still machine pitch). He very seldom strikes. He batted over 800 in both Select and Rec. In that time, he has had roughly 150+ times at bat with 4 strikeouts. But we are concerned about his swing and have received numerous "opinions" from coaches. I believe he is dropping bat too low behind him at commencement of swing but it does create a fairly good "angle of attack" but takes longer and he has to "swing up". Sometimes he can hit ball quite hard (Home Run hard) but not as frequent as will be needed. Playing with young leagues and my son being fast has allowed him to get on base so far but not much longer. So could anybody direct me on how to get his swing evaluated? I have some video and could take more if necessary. Appreciate any help. Thanks Concerned Father (Tod)

  30. This is so true. My HS coach tried to turn us all in to these downward swing no stride all arm swinging robots. I was never a power hitter but I'd scream line drives to the gaps and get doubles or leg triples all the time in any league other than highschool. Didn't help that I was a pitcher and our state allowed the DH, so guess who did nothing but bunt during batting practice if we even got to pick up a bat during the season at all….

  31. Great video. It’s like choosing your bat. It’s what feels comfortable. If you are athletic and you have proper load, hands and head are still, lower separates from hands, it works. Ted Williams had very low hands – .406

  32. 10:55 is the most common sense instruction ever given about swing approach. Swinging down high to low only ensures more strikeouts.

  33. I went to one of, if not the top baseball camp (former pros) in the mid 80s in HS, and they pushed the structured hitting style. Trigger the hands back, foot down, downward swing and then it's with all arms essentially. There was no rhythm. I was a Charley Lau student, and he was all about rhythm. At the end of the camp, I didn't get any check marks on my hitting report card. But Rod Carew visited the camp one day and said I had the smoothest swing of anyone there!

  34. its like a signature, there is no cookie cutter approach.  what you don't want is wasted motion and wasted energy.  concept of intersecting planes, angle of pitch.  center of gravity.

  35. It's funny because this is almost exactly like Ted Williams' Science of Hitting. Especially the swinging up to meet the ball. He even has diagrams.

  36. I've watched a lot of videos and worked with a number of hitting coaches. This is HONESTLY the best twenty minutes of instruction I've ever seen.

  37. Too bad baseball is a horribly boring, uninteresting, and unathletic sport. As such none of this information is of any use to anybody. Good video though mate, keep up the good work!

  38. One thing that coaches have to learn is that all hitters have their own style, through the style of the hitter one as a coach has to teach the child not to tell him he has to change his batting style what you have to teach him how to hit the ball of the appropriate wool that is the easiest way to teach the child. I learned that from Miguel Cabrera since at one point we were talking about how to hit the ball better without having to change your batting style and that was the conclusion of our batting practice.

  39. Nobody really swings down on the ball in a game. It is more of a drill to keep you from dropping your back shoulder. If you notice when people practice swinging down they are not really in their normal batting stance like they would be in a game they are just training their arms. When you walk up to get ready to hit you swing down on your practice swings but when you hit it just helps to keep a level swing because a lot of people will try to swing up when they are hitting.
    When you turn your wrists over to bring the bat around you naturally swing upward so as long a you hit the ball I guess closer to the front of the plate or as your arms are getting to full extension your swing is naturally going to guide the ball on an upward trajectory. You want to keep everything as natural as possible.
    Swinging down when you practice is to keep from dropping your shoulder when you swing in the games.

  40. In my stance I always had my hands up to my ear level. My Legion coach didn't like this and wanted me to change my stance to have my hands way lower. I had batted .365 in high school ball earlier that year. When I changed my stance I absolutely sucked bad. I decided to just go back to my original stance and my coach benched me for not listening. This was a pre-load stance I'm talking about. Once I was loaded my hands were in a lower position. He just didn't like the way I stood at the plate.

  41. If only this video existed when I was 12 or 13, would have saved me a lot of time figuring stuff out. Great Stuff!

  42. The "Swing down on the ball" concept forgets that there is spinal tilt in the swing. In relationship to your spin, yes you swing down because your spine will tilt to hit the ball. (Show me one MLB player with shoulders parallel to the ground at contact.) However, in relation to everything else, the swing is level to a slight upper cut depending on where the pitch is.

  43. I lost my left knee when I was 23, I was born to be a baseball player, it was my calling in 1979, I could Out throw Dave Parker, and out hit most and I new it, and still know it till this day.
    YOU WANT TO HIT A BASEBALL!!! LEARN TO MASTER an 8 iron and a lot of jumbo buckets of balls, then take it to the batting cage, it’s all about timing into the strike, simple and quick and snappy 👈🏼 you have to much going on in your head. I got a headache listening to this. Sorry 😎

  44. Great points! One thing I constantly teach my boys to help them stay on that axis is to keep their head / chin down on the ball! And make the chin almost tuck and touch the left shoulder and finish with it near or touching the right shoulder and allow the shoulder to push the head/chin as the swing is finishing the pull through! Which is after the bathead has driven through th ball and wrists are then rolling through at the right point of their swing.

  45. The recognized individuality that Matt speaks of is indicative of his knowledge of the art of hitting. One of the cool things of life is that we are all different. Couldn't agree more with the idea of letting the athlete be who they are PROVIDED, certain fundamental things DO take place when they need/have to. Great stuff guy! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. It is greatly appreciated.

  46. So 3rd misconception. I was always taught to swing level, are you guys recommending to swing at a angle? I heard trout and some other big League players swing at a 20 to 30 degree angle upwards. Do you got a video on this? Thanks

  47. My 9 yr old is not comfortable with striding when swinging. He has a wide stance and only torques he’s leg. Does he have to stride for additional power along with the torque?

  48. I wouldn't call all these "misconceptions," but just rather, "fixes you don't need to make if they don't need fixing." I have told many kids (11 and under) not to drop their hands, for example, but ONLY when that was their actual flaw. They'd drop their hands and then swing from there. They invariably could not hit anything but the lowest pitches. Anything thigh high or above…whiff! In fact, I would even add, "Well you can drop them if you want, but only if you get them back to the right spot in time." Key to what Coach says here is, "I wouldn't change just for the sake of changing."

  49. My son just finished the 8u season…the last 2 years he had above 700 batting average due to this kind of instruction. I refused to let the coaches jack with his swing mechanics and timing. With good basic stance and mechanic instruction I let him develope a natural swing with more focus on hand eye coordination.

  50. Literally every “misconception” was taught to my son this season – and he was in a season-long slump! Just forwarded this video to him…thanks so much for this video.

  51. You're talking about youth players, so why not put them in the correct position from the get go? Get rid of all that noise in the swing and build a strong base to start with. If they want to vary from that as they get older then that is a completely different topic.

  52. "Hit down on the ball" is to stop youth players from dropping their hands. It gives them the "feel" of not dropping and lifting. Keeping the bat square through the zone, again, is a different topic.

  53. Antonelli explained the stride very clearly that any age group should be able understand his instruction. Great instruction visually and verbally to the max.

  54. I think you guys covered a lot of great things in this video. This is from my perspective of coaching primarily 12 and under.

    When I talk about getting the foot down early, i am trying to get the kids to understand that they need to hit from a position of strength and balance. if they start to move too much of their body with a foot still up in the air, they will have difficulty timing and being balanced at the point of attack. Getting that foot down early helps reinforce the concept of hitting off of two feet and driving up against a firm front side. I do agree you can load to early though, and a good coach should be able to differentiate and explain that.

    I teach the boys to keep the hands still purely from a biological perspective. I try to explain to them that their mind is constantly performing the math equations needed to get their hands from start to contact based off what their eyes are seeing. The more variables they introduce into that equation, hand movement being one of them, the harder their mind has to work to accomplish that task. At younger ages, they should be focusing on simplifying the process. I just teach hands high simply because its easier to stay high on heat up in the zone, and bring them down to contact lower in the zone.

    I think swing down is simply meant to relay to the kids that the bat and the ball need to get down from where they start. It should never be taught to swing down through the ball, but to get both the HANDS and the BAT down on plane through contact. Again, a coach should be able to distinguish between those things when teaching.

    As far as keeping the front side closed, when we talk about it, we mean to keep it closed as you launch into the swing phase. it should come open as the bat travels through the zone, but staying closed to me, means staying closed through launch, and opening through contact. I sure hope folks are not teaching kids to swat at the ball like you displayed at the end.

    great work! keep it up. I use a lot of your videos to reinforce what I instruct. Sometimes they think coach is full of shit, so when someone on youtube is backing it up, it tends to carry more weight.

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