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ARE AS A COUNTRY. OUR POLITICAL LEADERS HAVE TO STOP WHATEVER IT IS THEY’RE DOING. THIS IS A SOLVABLE PROBLEM. THERE’S NO QUESTION WE CAN CHANGE BEHAVIOR IN THE COUNTRY. IT’S NOT LIKE GOING TO MARS. WHICH WE WANT TO DO AND WE’RE EXCITED ABOUT. BUT I WOULD KIND OF RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST WE FIX WHAT’S HERE ON THE GROUND WHILE WE’RE AT LEAST THINKING ABOUT DOING THAT OR BEFORE WE GO. IT IS A FIXABLE PROBLEM.>>WHEN YOU’VE GOT on every purchasll matchs And no blackout dates at the end of yo my miles?! Mi! taking a scuba diving trip! I love t Or maybe go surfin or not. Ok. Ma Maybe a petting zo Ea
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e l trea. tract infe r respiratory youray ll your do Otezla. an Show more of you. WE’RE JOINED BY TWO MEN IN THE BUSINESS OF TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF NOT SURVIVING GUN VIOLENCE. WE HAVE FORMER PHILLY POLICE COMMISSIONER. HE WAS WASHINGTON, D.C.’S POLICE CHIEF DURING THE SNIPER RAMPAGE. ALSO HERE IS DR. JOE SACRIN, DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY ROOM GENERAL SURGERY AT JOHN HOPKINS IN BALTIMORE. HE IS NOW AN ACTIVIST WITH THE BRADY CAMPAIGN. NICE TO HAVE YOU BACK. NICE TO MEET YOU. CHIEF, A QUESTION FROM THE AUDIENCE TO START. TERESA, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WHAT’S YOUR QUESTION?>>THANK YOU. I’M A VOLUNTEER WITH THE COALITION OF NEW JERSEY FIREARM OWNERS. I AM A PROUD FEMALE FIREARM OWNER. I JUST WANT TO SAY I’M A FIREARM OWNER AND I CARE TOO. I THINK THERE’S A LITTLE BIT OF A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT WE DON’T CARE. WE DO. AND ACTUALLY WE’RE AGAINST VIOLENCE, ALL VIOLENCE, NOT JUST GUN VIOLENCE. MY QUESTION IS DO YOU BELIEVE A WOMAN HAS A RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHETHER OR NOT TO DEFEND HER OWN BODY? AND IN THE MANNER SHE CHOOSES. AND THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT INTERFERE WITH THAT DECISION?>>THAT’S A LITTLE OFF THE TOPIC HERE. BUT I DO BELIEVE IN A WOMAN’S RIGHT TO CHOOSE. WHEN YOU GET INTO THE AREA OF ANY MEANS SHE CHOOSES, I DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT. THERE ARE LAWS IF YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT DEADLY FORCE. FOR EXAMPLE. YOU CARRY A GUN OR WHATEVER. THERE ARE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH YOU CAN RESORT TO DEADLY FORCE. OKAY? AND IT’S IMPORTANT AS A GUN OWNER, AND THAT GOES FOR ANY GUNOWNER, TO UNDERSTAND THE PARTICULAR LAWS OF THAT STATE SO THEY DON’T WIND UP DOING SOMETHING THAT COULD ACTUALLY CAUSE THEM SOME PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD. CERTAINLY IF YOU’RE ASSAULTED OR WHATEVER, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO DEFEND YOURSELF. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DEADLY FORCE THAT’S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.>>YOU KNOW, IT’S INTERESTING. THERE’S A TRANSIT OF PROPERTY INVOLVED. YOU’RE PLAYING ON WHAT WE SEE WITH REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. IN EACH CASE PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING THESE IMPASSIONED ARGUMENTS, WHAT’S THE CONCERN? THE CONCERN IS THE WELL-BEING OF THE PERSON WHO WINDS UP BEING THE RECIPIENT OF THE ACT, RIGHT? WHEN YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY ISN’T WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, BUT STILL IMPORTANT, IT’S WELL, WHAT ABOUT THE FETUS? WHAT ABOUT THE BABY, WHEN IS IT A PERSON. YOU’RE THINKING ABOUT WHO IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY THE DECISION THAT’S MADE. THAT’S THE SAME THING HERE. I HAVE A RIGHT TO OWN A GUN. I DO. I DO OWN A GUN. MY RIGHT HAS RESTRICTIONS ON IT. RIGHT?>>EXACTLY.>>AND WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF MY RIGHT ON THE REST OF SOCIETY, THAT’S WHERE YOU GET INTO WHAT SCALIA, AND YOU ARE TO SAY IT THAT WAY, MAY HE REST IN PEACE. HE WAS A GENIUS JURIST. BEFORE THAT CASE WE DIDN’T HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL RIGHT READ INTO THE SECOND AMENDMENT. AND THE DIFFERENCE IS HUGE. THE SECOND AMENDMENT USED TO BE ABOUT WHAT THE STATE COULD MAKE YOU DO. IT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE ARM. IT HAS TO BE ABLE TO BE USED AND YOU KNOW HOW TO USE SO IT WHEN YOU COME TO WORK IN WASHINGTON’S ARMY YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO USE IT SO THEY DON’T HAVE TO SPEND SO MUCH TIME IN TRAINING YOU UP AND USING YOU. NOW IT’S DIFFERENT. IT’S ABOUT WHAT YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL ARE EMPOWERED TO DO. AS REALITY, ONCE YOU GET PASSED THAT LEGAL GOBBLE. AND YOU’RE ON THE STREET. THE REALITY OF HOW MANY GUNS AND HOW MANY WAYS THEY’RE USED IN SOCIETY AND WHAT THAT DOES TO A POLICE FORCE, WHAT’S YOUR EXPERIENCE?>>FIRST OF ALL I STARTED IN THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT IN 1968. I SPENT 30 YEARS A CHICAGO COP. I REMEMBER A TIME WHEN WE USED TO RECOVER WHAT WE CALLED SATURDAY NIGHT OFFICIALS, A LITTLE .22, ..32 CALIBER HANDGUN. MAYBE SIX ROUNDS, SEVEN ROUND OR WHATEVER. NOW YOU’RE GETTING HIGH POWERED SEMIAUTOMATIC WEAPON, INCLUDING ASSAULT WEAPONS. YOU GO TO A CRIME SCENE NOW, YOU NEVER FIND ONE SHELL CASING. YOU FIND 30, 40. AT SCENE. IT’S CHANGED DRAMATICALLY. AND THE DEVASTATION OF THE WOUNDS. NOBODY GETS SHOT ONE TIME. WE’RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING SHOT MULTIPLE TIMES WITH A HIGH-POWERED WEAPON THAT IS DESIGNED TO KILL. THAT BULLET EXPANDS ON IMPACT AND RIPS TISSUE AND ANYTHING THAT IT TOUCHES. PEOPLE LITERALLY BLEED OUT ON THE STREET. MY COPS IN PHILLY WERE CARRYING TOURNIQUETS. THEY CARRY THEM EVERY DAY JUST TO BE ABLE TO STOP THE BLEEDING TO GET THEM TO THE HOSPITAL. WE DON’T WAIT FOR AN AMBULANCE. YOU THROW THEM IN THE BACK OF THE POLICE CAR AND GET THEM TO THE TRAUMA CENTER. THAT’S HOW DESPERATE THINGS ARE.>>THE COUNTER ARGUMENT IS, I WANT THIS THROUGH YOUR REALITY AND THE OPERATING ROOM, WHAT YOU CALL ASSAULT WEAPONS YOU’RE GIVING LONG GUNS A BAD NAME. A LOT OF THEM ARE .22, ..32 CALIBER. THEY’RE NOT THAT POWERFUL AND BEING DEMONIZED THE GUNS WHEN THEY DON’T REALLY MAKE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE. WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED SINCE YOU STARTED AND TO WHERE YOU ARE TODAY IN TERMS OF WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN THE SMALL CALIBER HANDGUN AND THESE LONGER GUNS AND THE AR STYLE GUNS AND WHAT THEY DO TO PEOPLE?>>LET’S BE CLEAR ABOUT ONE THING FIRST. WE ARE FACING A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS IN THE COUNTRY. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE COMPARISON OF THE HANDGUN VS. THE ASSAULT RIFLE. WE KNOW THAT THE FORCE THAT’S DELIVERED PULVERIZES THE TISSUE. WHEN WE SEE THE WOUNDS AND THE MISSILES THAT ARE PASSING THROUGH BODIES. AND THE REALITY IS THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR US TO SAVE THOSE LIVES. IT’S VERY DIFFERENT THAN IF SOMEONE GETS SHOT WITH A HANDGUN. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT US AS A SYSTEM, RIGHT, WE ARE A TEAM THAT HAVE COME TOGETHER WITH A COMMON GOAL. RIGHT? TO SAVE THE PATIENTS LIFE. TO STOP THE BLEEDING. BUT THAT’S THE END GAME. WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IS WE SHOULD BE PREVENTING THE INJURIES FROM HAPPENING IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND THAT’S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN’T FOCUSSED ON FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH PERSPECTIVE. >>DO YOU BELIEVE ANOTHER ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS OFFERED UP IS THEY DIDN’T HAVE THESE THEY’D USE SOMETHING ELSE AND IF YOU TOOK AWAY ACCESS TO GUNS. MAGICALLY, YOU FOUND SOME MATRIX OF LAWS AND PROCESSES, THEN THEY’LL USE KNIVES AND THEY’LL USE CARS AND THEY’LL USE EXPLOSIVES, AND YOU’LL BE IN THE SAME PLACE. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT?>>NO, I DON’T. LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN DAYTON. 100 ROUND DRUM. 32 SECONDS. NINE DEAD. A NUMBER INJURED. YOU CANNOT DO THAT IN SUCH A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. I THINK THAT THEORY IS FALSE. >>SHAINA HARRISON. WHERE ARE WE? GREAT. WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION?>>HI, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME. MY NAME IS SHAINA HARRISON. I’M THE EDUCATION DIRECTOR AT NEW YORK AGAINST GUN VIOLENCE WE TEACH GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION PROGRAMS IN HIGH SCHOOLS AROUND THE CITY. ONE OF THE PRIMARY FOCUSES OF OUR CLASSROOM IS REALLY TALK ABOUT THE ROOT CAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE. AND IN LIEU OF DONALD TRUMPS RECENT REMARKS ABOUT VIDEO GAMES, I WANTED TO ASK YOU THE U.S. HAS MORE GUN VIOLENCE THAN ANY INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRY. EVEN THOUGH WE PLAY THE SAME VIDEO GAMES AND LISTEN TO THE SAME MUSIC, WHY DO YOU THINK WE STRUGGLE WITH SUCH A HUGE GUN PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY?>>I THINK THE ANSWER IS ACTUALLY RELATIVELY SIMPLE. IT’S THE ACCESS TO FIREARMS THAT WE HAVE. I THINK IT’S A FALLACY TO TRY TO SAY THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IS A MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEM OR RELATED TO VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES. LOOK AT JAPAN FOR EXAMPLE. THEY PLAY WAY MORE VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES THAN WE DO AND THEY DON’T HAVE THIS PROBLEM. SO I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS RIGHT ON POINT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEM, THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA, LET’S BE HONEST, WE COVER THIS ISSUE AROUND THE MASS SHOOTINGS, BUT THAT’S JUST A SMALL PROPORTION OF THIS EPIDEMIC. WE HAVE YOUNG BLACK MEN THAT ARE BEING KILLED ON OUR STREETS EVERY DAY IN CITIES LIKE BALTIMORE, CHICAGO, PHILADELPHIA. AND THOSE STORIES OFTEN GO UNTOLD. I THINK WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY — [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]>>THANK YOU.>>I THINK WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO TELL THOSE STORIES. AND, YOU KNOW, I RECENTLY HAD A 17-YEAR-OLD HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT THAT WAS SHOT IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD, EXECUTION-STYLE. THE WORST PART OF MY JOB IS HAVING TO GO UP TO THOSE WAITING ROOMS AND TALK TO THE FAMILIES. THE MOTHERS, FATHER, SISTER, BROTHERS. AND I WENT UP TO TALK TO THIS KID’S MOM, AND EXPLAINED TO HER THAT HER CHILD HAD A DEVASTATING BRAIN INJURY AND HE WAS NEVER COMING BACK. AND AS I BEGAN TELLING HER THIS STORY AND WHAT THE PROGNOSIS WAS, SHE BEGAN TELLING ME ABOUT HER SON. SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, HE WAS THE FIRST IN OUR FAMILY TO GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN BALTIMORE IS A BIG DEAL. HE HAD HOPES AND DREAMS OF GOING TO COLLEGE. NONE OF WHICH WILL EVER GET FULFILLED. AND AS SHE WAS TELLING US THIS, SHE LOOKED UP AT THE HEALTH CARE TEAM AND SHE SAW THE DEVASTATION IN OUR EYES, AND SHE WALKED OVER AND SHE DID SOMETHING I’LL NEVER FORGET. SHE PUT HER HAND ON MY SHOULDER AND SAID ARE YOU OKAY? NOW JUST IMAGINE THIS, CHRIS, FOR ONE SECOND. HERE IS A MOTHER THAT JUST LOST HER SON, AND SHE’S ASKING US IF WE’RE OKAY. IT’S MOMENTS LIKE THAT THAT RESTORE MY FAITH IN HUMANITY. AND MOMENTS LIKE THAT WHICH ALLOW ME AND A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS, INCLUDING PEOPLE HERE IN THIS ROOM TO GET UP EVERY DAY TO WORK TIRELESSLY TO REDUCE FIREARM RELATED DEATH AND INJURY IN AMERICA.>>YOU KNOW, CHIEF, THE IDEA THAT WE DON’T FOCUS ON A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THIS, 1994 THE CRIME BILL THAT WAS PASSED THEN IS GETTING A LOT OF HEAT RIGHT NOW IN POLITICS, RIGHT. PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW IT WAS MISPLACED JUSTICE AT THE TIME. THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BILL WAS PART OF IT. I WENT BACK AND WAS READING THROUGH THAT BILL. THAT BILL GETS MORE CREDIT THAN IT DESERVES. ONE, YOU CANNOT FIGURE OUT IF IT MADE A DIFFERENCE IN CRIME BECAUSE WE DON’T TRACK IT. TWO, THE MANUFACTURERS WENT RIGHT AROUND THE RESTRICTIONS, AND THERE WERE ALL THESE WEAPONS THAT EXISTED OUT THERE ALREADY THAT WERE WILLING FOR TRANSFER. AND THAT WAS DONE IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO THE KIND OF CRIME HE’S TALKING ABOUT. BARELY PASSED, 16-14. BUT EVERYBODY LOOKS AT THAT AS THOSE ARE THE GOOD OLD DAYS WHEN WE GOT IT RIGHT. DID WE?>>WE HAVE NEVER GOT IT RIGHT. WE’VE NEVER REALLY BEEN ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITHOUT GETTING OVERLY HEATED TO COME UP WITH SOME REAL SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEM. AGAIN, WE’RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW BECAUSE OF MASS SHOOTINGS. I DEAL WITH HOMICIDES EVERY DAY A COP 47 YEARS IN CHICAGO, PHILADELPHIA AND WASHINGTON D.C. I MEAN, IT’S ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE, AND I CALL IT COLLATERAL DAMAGE THAT’S CAUSED BY THE VIOLENCE THAT OCCURS IN MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU GO TO AN OUTDOOR CRIME SCENE, AND YOU’VE GOT A BODY LYING THERE, LOOK ACROSS THE STREET, THERE ARE LITTLE KIDS OVER THERE. THEY HAVE TO WALK PASSED THE SAME PLACE TO GO TO SCHOOL. WE WONDER WHY THEY HAVE TROUBLE READING AND WRITING. THEY’RE TRAUMATIZED. AND THERE’S NO WAY — THERE AREN’T THE SERVICES IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO HELP THESE KIDS. I SAW MY FIRST HOMICIDE WHEN I WAS 14. IT WASN’T A GUNSHOT. MY BROTHER’S BEST FRIEND WHO LIVED NEXT DOOR TO US GOT STABBED IN THE BACK BY GANG BANGERS BECAUSE HE WASN’T IN A GANG. I MEAN, I GREW UP IN INGLEWOOD ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF CHICAGO WHICH WE ALL KNOW HAS GOT ITS ISSUES. THIS IS NOT NEW. IT’S NOT NEW. THE IMPACT IT HAS ON THE FIRST RESPONDERS. THE COPS THAT DEAL WITH THIS. THE MEDICAL PERSONNEL. I MEAN, THERE IS A LOT OF MOVING PARTS AND A LOT OF THINGS WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT, TAKE A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH. BUT LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING ELSE. I DON’T CARE WHAT THEY PASS, IF THEY DON’T GET THE ASSAULT WEAPONS IT WON’T MAKE A DAMN BIT OF DIFFERENCE. >>CHIEF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DOC, I APPRECIATE IT. THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU. >>THANK YOU.>>LOOK, THEY’RE HARD TRUTHS TO HEAR, BUT IF WE’RE NOT GOING TO LISTEN NOW, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO LISTEN? WE’RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK. I’LL GIVE YOU A NUGGET ADS WE G TO COMMERCIAL. 94% OF YOU, IF YOU’RE A VOTER, YOU SUPPORT UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR GUN OWNERS. THAT IS AS CLOSE TO UNANIMOUS AS WE GET THESE DAYS, BUT NO ONE IS LISTENING TO YOU. HOW DO YO MAKE THEM DO YOUR JOB? IN THE NEXT SEGMENT, I’M GOI

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