Binga, thank you so much
for being here today.. – Pleasure.
– …’cause you are the 50th episode.. – Am I?
– …that I’ve ever shot. Now if you had to look straight
into the camera and say “Hey, thanks so much for doing this.” Thanks so much,
I’ve really enjoyed this morning. It’s been great. Mate, this is awesome.
I’ve really enjoyed this. You know what?
I would go as far as to say this is the best interview
I’ve ever had in 25 years. – Oh, really?
– I mean that, yeah. ‘Applause!’
– I mean that. And it’s great to be the 50th. – Thank you so much.
– The 50th, there you go. – Cheers!
– Cheers! – There we go.
– I really mean that. Awesome. Breakfast! This is all for me, right?
This is all for me. – This is..
– Hell of a coffee I’m drinking. So, let’s just get one question
out of the way. – I’m nervous.
– You or Shoaib Akhtar, who’s faster? Well, ask him. – He will say him.
– He’ll say him. – You gotta say you.
– I’ll probably say him as well. To me though,
it was about longevity. A lot more.
‘Cause I hit that 160 barrier – so I’d ticked that box.
– Yeah. But Shoaib was like scary to face. And he was.. I mean, I’ve played a game
against Shoaib in Melbourne at the Telstra Dome. – You know, with the big roof on top.
– Yeah, yeah. And I’m walking out to bat and I’m panicking
’cause he just knocked over Ricky Ponting. And he’s bowling. I’m looking up
and he’s bowling 155, 156 I’m going, “Oh, gosh.” I’m taking helmet..
I’d wear two helmets if I could. Right, and I look up and I heard “Binga, Binga.” I’m thinking “Who’s bloody calling my name?” I look back,
and there’s Shoaib Akhtar he’s almost pushing off the side screen and he goes, “I’m gonna kill you.” I’m just, “Shoaib, no.
We’re friends, no.” He runs in, and his black hair
is just flapping in the wind and he’s just coming in I’m looking down, I look up,
and he’s still 45 minutes away. I’m tapping down, look up,
he’s still coming. I’m thinking, “He won’t bounce me.” “He won’t.. He’s my friend,
he won’t bounce me, it’s gotta be a yorker.” And it’s hit me straight
on the bridge of the foot – on the full.
– Yeah. Right in front, I’ve gone,
“Howzat! I’m out.” “Yeah, give me out. I’m out.”
Umpire said, “Not out.” I’m like, “Umpire, you’ve cost me.
Now he’s gonna kill me.” I’ve appealed. It’s like, “Oh, no.” So then,
next ball whisked past my head I think. But the thing about Shoaib Akhtar is that you want entertainers
in this game of cricket. – Yeah.
– You ask any person that’s watching any young boy or girl
that’s watching the TV they, you know, wanna see
a batsman playing a beautiful hook shot so you have to be an entertainer a bit like an actor out there
playing cricket. And it was great seeing,
you know, Shoaib bowled at Ricky Ricky go bang, hit a six
or pass his head. – And that’s that fun.
That’s cricket. – Yeah. So, I’m so proud
of what I’ve achieved. You know, I never thought
in my wildest dream – that I would’ve got
300-plus wickets. – Yeah. But I’m pumped, I’m so happy that I did. I knew at the age of 9. My parents asked me when I was 9. And I’m thinking back,
’cause my son now is 12. And when he was 9,
I’m thinking that’s so young to know what you wanted to do. And they said, what do you wanna do
when you grow up? I said, “I’m gonna play
for Australia, cricket.” “And I wanna bowl 160.” My parents, you know,
they had never played cricket. Mum was a sprinter.
She was a 100-metre sprinter – so we probably got the fast twitch fibres
from mum. – Yeah. Although dad reckons
all the talent came from him. – As they always do.
– As they always muck around. Yeah. But 160. Like, for a 9-year-old
to have that dream of bowling 160.
Who did you see that time? – Who was your..
– Jeff Thomson. So Jeff Thomson? Dennis Lillee. You know, think about it,
Lillee with 355 Test wickets Thommo took 200 Test wickets but to me it wasn’t the wickets,
it was the speed. – Yeah. Man, he was quick.
– You know, 160 Ks. And I thought,
“I’m gonna crack that 160 barrier.” – And you did.
– “I wanna break his record.” Didn’t you have an off-cutter
which was really – deceptive?
– Yeah, I had an off-cutter I had a leg-cutter, but I had a ball that I used to bowl,
that I would hold deep in the hand. So, normally,
when you’re holding a cricket ball you hold it, and there’s like
a bit of a gap there, like that. – But I’d hold.. I’d squeeze it in,
right? – Yeah. So then as the ball comes out,
I’ll lift those two fingers and the ball comes out a lot slower and it goes same like..
And sometimes the ball swings – batsmen would be like..
– You can’t read it. It’s the same arm action, same pace but just lift those two fingers
and that takes the pace off the ball until I found out in the dugout
only a few weeks ago with Kumar Sangakkara and he goes, “I’ve got to admit
to something.” I said, “What?” He goes, “You know,
when you’re bowling your slow ball..” I said, “Yeah, it never worked
against Sri Lanka. Why?” He goes, “‘Cause, the non-striker,
if I was at the non-striker’s end “you’re watching the batsman,
he’s watching me” “and as I push it in,
he’d tap his thigh pad” “which means
there’s a slow ball coming.” See?
Bugger! You made your Test debut and went back to the suit store – that you used to work at,
didn’t you? – Yeah. When I made
the Under-19 Australian cricket team – that toured here to India.
– Right. Excuse me. We had to get measured up
for the Australian team blazer And it was done
by a company called Flare. It was a horrible winter’s day,
I still remember it pouring down rain had to be there at 8:30 to get measured up
for my Australian team blazer. Went in there, met Richard Bowman so one lovely fellow, really nice his store looked beautiful,
it’s about as big as this. And then three weeks later,
I get a phone call from Richard and he goes like, “We’d like
to offer you a job in menswear.” I said, “Great.
What do I have to do?” So we went through..
We literally got these books out, like this we’re going through all the fashion but then it became
how do you deal with the customer and these are things
that I reckon really helped me in my life and actually skilled me better to understand people
and interact with people. You’d be 97, close to 100 but you’d be a long fitting. So you’re at..
So, like, you’ll be about 111 centimeters. – That’s nice.
– And you’d be really good in a classic three button single breasted
with a notched lapel. It is slimming.. – That’s amazing.
– …as you’re tall. I’m gonna go get it measured – ’cause I don’t know my exact measures.
– You probably about a size.. About a size of 11 foot – probably. I don’t know.
– Yeah, that is exactly it. That’s spooky, man. It’s what I had to do. So it wasn’t just working
in a menswear store – you’re learning about life.
– Yeah. And he gave me, you know,
a chance, an opportunity and I thought
that if someone does that to you in life – you should stick with him.
– So you started working there – while playing..
– Yeah, yeah. …Australia Under-19.. – Yep.
– …through your Test debut? Yep. And he always said
cricket comes first. So I’d leave work at 2:30 on a Tuesday 2:30 on a Thursday go to the nets at the SCG, train drive home, back home for two hours next day drive up
for two hours in the morning work the whole day until 2:30 drive to training, train until 9:30,
drive home two hours again. – Wow!
– And that was every single day for years and years and years. And I came in after we won
the World Cup in 2003 and this big bloke walks in. “How’s it, bru?” he said to me. So I looked at him, he goes “Weren’t you in Johannesburg two nights ago” “holding up the World Cup?”
I said, “Yeah.” He’s like,
“What the hell are you doing here?” I said, “I’m back at work, mate,
back to the real life.” And I’m sizing him up.
So, to me, he’s a batsman. He’s like a Sachin. So when
he walks in through the door he’s walking over the yard boundary rope and I’m sizing him up
thinking, “How am I” “gonna get this guy out?” Or,
“How am I gonna get his wicket?” “How am I gonna get that sale?” What I was doing subconsciously
without even knowing.. – Yeah. – …was..
Yes, I’m learning about fashion. Yes, I’m learning about different things.
But it actually made me focus more on cricket because up until 17, I was thinking “I’ve gotta play cricket,
I wanna play cricket.” “How do I get better?
How do I become faster?” “How do I become a better batsman?
How do I work?” I’m like exhausted. So then I thought,
“If I put something else in my life..” – Yeah. – And I’m working,
working, working, working. 2:30, bang, “Cricket time,
let’s go. I’m ready.” And go there, and you bowl,
go home, work all next day come Thursday, 2:30,
“Oh, cricket time, you beauty.” “Let’s get out of the store.”
Birds are singing, it’s summer you’re bowling in the nets,
and I was just like so focused and that actually helped my cricket so much. That’s so interesting actually because otherwise
you can get fairly one-dimensional you can just hold on to stuff too hard,
and then you.. – 100%.
– That’s what people talk about switching off from the game. And there are a lot of people
that can’t switch off from the game. – Yeah.
– You know, I think of guys like Mike Hussey, who’s the exception because he was just, like,
cricket the whole time. – Yeah.
– So being in the alphabetical order Hussey, Lee, you know – I’ll always be in the next room..
– Yeah. …on tour. And every night,
at 12:30, 1 o’clock, I’d hear.. “Huss, go to bed!” He’s tapping his bats in. I like to switch off, mate. So how many nicknames do you have? – I know there’s Binga.
Of course. – Yeah. – Do you know how that
came about? – No. So there’s a chain
of electrical stores in New South Wales called Bing Lee. – So it’s a Chinese company..
– Yeah? …and they’re huge. I mean,
Bing Lee are everywhere. Their slogan on their logo,
well, their mission statement is, “Everything’s negotiable.” That’s what they say, right?
So, Bing Lee. Obviously, my surname Lee. – So I became Binga, right?
– Yeah. And my brother went in one day,
taking the mickey and said, “How much
for the Bing Lee sign?” “Sir, that’s not for sale.” He says, “Well, actually
on your mission statement it says” “everything is negotiable.” So he goes, “I’ll go speak to the boss.” Of course, came back and said,
“No, it’s not for sale, mate.” “Great, ’cause I didn’t want it anyway.” But that’s it. So I’ve got Binga you sometimes get Ugg. – Why’s Ugg?
– Ugly. No! There’s another name in Punjabi, I think that Binga means something else if you say it slightly different. Bhinga. Oh, Bhinga!
That’s right. – Cross-eyed.
– That’s it. I also got the name Oswald. Oswald’s a funny story. – Can I just set it up one second?
– Yeah, sure. John F. Kennedy, JFK – the assassination
of the American President.. – Yeah. …and the person who assassinated him was a man called Lee Harvey Oswald. Now, the story. So I’m batting at number nine Ian Harvey was batting at number eight and my brother was batting at number seven. So they looked up at the scoreboard and Steve Waugh said,
“Lee, Harvey, Oswald.” So that’s how I became Oswald, so.. And does he call it
or do a lot of people call you Oswald? Or it’s just Steve Waugh?
– No, that was just Steve Waugh just mucking around.
People think about Stephen Waugh thinking the “Ice Man,” nothing. – He is probably the funniest guy
in the team. – Really? Yeah. He is hilarious.
He is cheeky loves having a joke, loves India. So you had two predominant captains, right? – Long running.
Steve Waugh.. – Yeah. – Yeah. – …for a fair bit,
and then Ricky Ponting.. – Yeah. Yeah.
– …for pretty much most of your career. Steve Waugh was brilliant
because he believed in me as.. I guess as an athlete. He said, “Mate, you’re in the team.
I don’t care whether you go for 30” “of 3 overs, if you pick up a wicket,
it changes the whole game.” “Run in, scare the tripe out of him” “try and get us one wicket” “and we don’t care
for how many runs he goes for.” Ricky Ponting was a bit more “You know, we need you to bowl
that perfect line, keep bowling quick.” “But let’s work on this plan.” And that really helped me too,
through that middle part of my career. But the thing what makes a good leader you know, for me personally
is someone that you believe in that you want to actually
get up in the morning and don’t let down. So even though
that you’re playing for Australia I didn’t wanna let Steve Waugh down,
I didn’t wanna let Ricky Ponting down. And they are two wonderful guys,
two great friends but two different styles of captains. I’m enjoying this. – I’m glad you are.
– Yeah, it’s good. When you get put
in front of the cameras, right? – Yeah.
– Well, I can press play now and I’ll come out with what we call
a “standard function answer.” – Yeah. – So, for example,
I’m running in to bowl and you ask me as a reporter the umpire should’ve given an out,
it was clearly a nick it cost us the game, India wins. What did you think
about that umpiring decision? If that was out,
the game was Australia’s. Look, we have to make sure that
we get out there and always try our best but, you know, the umpires are normal guys and sometimes they make a mistake.
And, look, we have to make sure that we learn from that. Look, we tried our hardest I thought there might’ve been a nick there but the umpire said not out,
so we’ll just have to accept that call. – ‘Applause!’
– Right? Whereas, you wanna say “The freaking umpire cost us..” – Yeah.
– “He cost us the match.” “Hey, he should lose his job.” – “I’m gonna find him outside..”
– “Australia should’ve won” “India lost, and the umpire cost us.” Now imagine if I said that,
I’d be in a lot of trouble. – Yeah, we just..
That’s what I say.. – And.. …there’s never any questions,
there’s just.. And I get a nice breakfast too – which is pretty lovely.
– There you go. Back in the late ’90s,
there was not that much nutrition – and stuff around, right? You were just..
– No one really knew about what to do. Yeah, so.. And if you’re a fast bowler,
you would just like pile on the carbs, right? Pretty much.
Prior to going out to a Test match.. – Yeah.
– …I would do carb-loading. So, I had to eat and eat and eat and eat. I’ll have about five or six meals a day. To bowl ten overs in a One Day match
would cover 17Ks.. – Wow.
– …maybe 20Ks in a Test match – during the day.
– Wow, man – that’s insane.
– So you can’t keep the weight on. – Yeah. – You’re putting
so much more pressure – through that ankle, front.. – Which
already has so much pressure on it.. – That’s correct.
– …naturally. What do they say,
it’s like twice your body weight – landing on your front foot?
– Mine was 16 times. – Yeah. – My playing weight
was round about 87 kilos. – Yeah. And I would be 16 times my body weight. Oh, so that’s your little an.. – Which is why you had..
– So over a ton which is why I had six ankle operations. – Six ankle operations, huh?
– Yeah. That, and the pressure
of slamming the foot down as hard as I did,
that’s where you get your pace. – But it comes at a cost.
– But the only thing you could do about it was actually decrease your pace. – And that..
– Like that was a non-negotiable – for you.
– That did not excite me. When you think
about the bottom of your.. I’m not trying to be technical I’m trying to think what it’s called.
It’s the bottom of your tibia.. – Yeah.
– …I think it is. The shin bone that comes down,
that then goes into your ankle. So then what happens is that chips off
which is called an os trigonum.. – Wow
– …a floating piece of bone. They have to go in, cut that bit of bone out,
throw it out, start again. And you keep bang, bang, bang,
bang, bang, and then bone grows back chips off again, go in and cut it again. So then, they end up cutting
off the bottom of my tibia. And then they had to get
three or four doctors on the pressure to try to push my ankle down
and create that force when I was bowling.. – Lord.
– …to load it up and go, “Yeah, we might
need to shave a bit more off” and then they’d shave a bit more off and then they’d load me up again shave a bit more off the bone and then the last time
they did it, it worked. But other than that I’m good. Now how do I come back from that? I’ve done all my rehab, I’m back playing but I know at the top of my mark that when I lay on that front foot I know, that you can get that knife and you go smack in the back of your ankle,
and that’s what’s gonna happen first ball. And I know..
And I actually get tears in my eyes – thinking about it,
because the pain.. – Yeah. …that you go through,
and I know that’s gonna happen. And somehow I’m 30 meters back running in, trying to let go of the ball
as hard and as fast I possibly can knowing that that ankle’s
gonna get smashed the first time. But you gotta trick your mind. You can do what you want with your brain. And I’ve always said that I reckon when you first start,
it’s 80% ability, 20% of your brain and then when you get towards
the, sort of, middle part of your career it becomes sort of flipped around 80% mental ability and 20% physical ability. The toughest player in world cricket in my opinion? – And you’ll be blown away by this.
– Tell me. The toughest, hands down – Simon Katich.
– What? Mate, Croatian background he get hit you could pin him
in the nets with 160Ks he wouldn’t wear an arm guard wouldn’t wear a rib pad,
you hit him, he’s like.. Tough. Break his rib, doesn’t care.
Play on. – So, I mean, we gotta..
– Yeah. ‘Cause, you know, you’re Australian,
we gotta talk about sledging. – You were never one for it.
– Gamesmanship. – Gamesmanship.
– Gamesmanship. You were never one for it, though. – Yeah, I was.
– I would see you.. Were you? So you were pretty quiet then. – Right.
– You did it cleverly. – I worked out how to do it.
– How? With a smile? You just went, “I’m gonna kill you.” – “I’m gonna kill you.”
– Yeah, you realize there are 34 cameras.. Yeah. …on you, right?
So there’s at least two or three cameras on you at the one time. How do I try and work it out?
Okay, all the cameras are on. Right. You can’t
verbally say something. There’s a stump mic that can hear you. So you know how
we all have a white sweat band? Yeah. Well, when I go and scratch my nose and just give the batsman..
It’s actually godawful as I’m scratching my nose they can’t see my mouth moving. They can hear something,
they don’t know where it’s coming from. And you give the batsman
an absolute spray as you scratch your nose, like that. Which were the batsmen
who then disoriented you a bit? To me it was like,
Viru was hard to bowl to. Because you’re bowling
the first ball of the Test match so when you play 20-20 you know, the first ball,
they’re trying to hit you for four or six. – Yeah.
– When you play 50 overs you sort of get into the game. Test match, you might bowl
four overs of maidens. Four maidens in a row. Viru, I dragged down the first ball,
I try and bowl a bouncer of the game, he go..
Six. I’m like, “Jesus.
Viru, relax. It’s a Test match.” He’d just wink at me, laugh,
mark center again. So that’s pretty cool. So, Lara. You’d bowl
the ball there, and he’d go – backward point.
– Yeah. You’d bowl the ball there again, same ball.. – You’d bowl the ball there..
Like that. – Yeah. So he was a nightmare to bowl to
because you couldn’t reset a field. He would take the ball that you bowled,
six in the same spot he’d just hit to six different spots
around the field. – Oh, I hated bowling
to Harbhajan Singh. – Yeah. Hated him on the field. Harbhajan.
‘Cause I couldn’t get him out and he’d be like sledging me back,
and I’d be sledging him and he’d be hitting sixes and all that. But, off the field,
he’s an absolute gentleman. Even to the extent, last year where he found out
about my son playing cricket. – Yeah.
– He sent him a message and sent him his own cricket gear from India. – I mean..
– Oh, nice. Pads, and thigh pad, and gloves
and all that. And I thought that’s.. – That’s really nice.
– Did Freddie Flintoff sledge you once and say,
“You named your son after..” – Yeah. – “…the place
I was born in,” or something? – 2006. My son had been born..
– I remember when he.. …he was about six days old.
And my son’s called Preston. – Yeah.
– So I bowl the ball I’m looking at him, right?
And he goes play and miss, he goes,
“Thanks for calling, you know” “your kid after where I was born.” – I’m like..
– What? He goes, “I was born in Preston.” I was like, “Oh, I didn’t know that.” Bowl the next ball he goes, “Mate, how the hell am I
gonna call my next kid Wollongong?” Where I was born, I thought.. And I’m laughing my head off,
and people at the gallery are going “What are these guys doing?” You know, we’re talking
and then we both burst out laughing and I thought that’s pretty cool. Can you still pick out, like,
the top moment for you perhaps on the field? – Tough one, yeah?
– That’s a tough one but a good one. One being the baggy green cap. So our baggy green cap is something
that we will cherish forever. And I know it’s just a green felt cap that is uncomfortable to wear but you put it on,
you feel like a bloody warrior. You feel like you’re 6’6″ you feel like
you can run through a brick wall because of the history because of what Allan Border
did with the baggy green and then Steve Waugh,
and then Ricky Ponting you know Mark Taylor, they all hope that – that legacy
of the baggy green cap. – Yeah. And who gave you yours?
Does the captain always give it – or..
– No, a past player. – Yeah, so who was yours?
– A gentleman called Ian Meckiff – left arm bowler for Australia.
– Of course, yeah. He got called for throwing and then my action
got questioned a few weeks later. Right on cue. – It’s good, it’s funny.
– My first Test wicket against India.. My first Test wicket against India
was something I’ll always cherish. – Ramesh from India, left-hander.
– Yeah. Sadagoppan Ramesh. We’ve all done some commentary with and they keep rolling in that clip,
the poor bugger – every time we’re on together.
– Yeah. He’s a lovely guy. But I reckon
one of my most cherished moments was against Pakistan playing in my first One Day match
for Australia. I’m walking out and the person I’m walking out behind
is Shane Lee – number 20 on his back.
– Nice. He’s wearing his Australian colors,
I’m wearing my Australian colors we’re singing the national anthem Steve and Mark Waugh,
Shane and Brett Lee in the same team. I thought, “How cool is this, you know?
Like, we’ve dreamt about in the backyard” “playing for Australia one day.” You know, we were Allan Border,
we were Sunil Gavaskar we were Viv Richards in the backyard
playing Ian Botham and all of a sudden here we are
playing for our country as two brothers,
and I thought that’s pretty cool. – That’s pretty cool. – Shane’s
how many years older than you? – Two-and-a-half.
– So that means you’re bowling – he’s batting, right? Big brothers bat.
– Yeah, well, big brothers are cheats. – I am a big brother, so I know.
– Yeah, they.. And my younger brother
who was a better cricketer – than me and Shane put together.
– Oh, really? Yeah, he’s a gun. But Shane was always the older brother
and just said “All right, you bowl.” I said, “Well, I wanna bat as well.”
And he would say, “Well, I’m not playing.” And I would always wanna play,
so he knew that I had to just bowl the whole time. But Shane got the same number
as Mark Taylor, 334 or as the same as Bradman. He was out five or six times,
he said, “No, you know, I didn’t nick it.” – No DRS.
– I couldn’t go upstairs, all right? So then I went to bat, got bowled first ball he said, “See you,”
he walked inside. So I started crying, mum came out Shane got a smack and I got another bat. – It was perfect.
– And then how many did you get? Two. You even sang a song – with Asha ji.
– Asha ji, yeah. – Yeah.
– Back in 2006, it was. Okay, how awkward was the acting in the video for you? Very awkward, very cheesy.. – Yeah.
– …very cringe-worthy. It was a lot of ducking you know, like in ‘Ace Ventura..’ – Yeah. – …when he’s like
hiding behind the bush. But I got approached
by a director through music and they said, “Listen, we’d like you
to do a song with a lady called Asha Bhosle” “you wouldn’t have heard of her.”
I said, “Yeah, I’ve heard of Asha ji.” They went, “What?”
Long story short, they said “We’re doing a collaboration,
and we’d love you to be involved.” So they went through
all these Bollywood stars that were doing a duet with her
and they said “And a guy called Robbie Williams..” I went, “What, from England?”
They said, “Yeah.” – I said, “If Robbie’s in, I’m in.”
– Yeah. And they said, “Just turn up.”
We’re up in Mohali.. – Yeah. – …playing in the
last qualifier One Day against India. And we had to go and win next day,
in order to then get the opportunity to go down
to hit back here in Mumbai – ’cause we had to do a film clip.
– Yeah. If we’d lost, we would’ve flown home. So I made sure
that we went out and beat India. Sorry. And we end up coming down
and doing that really cheesy film clip and that was it. – Do you remember the song?
– “Haan main tumhara hoon…” I can do..
So I can do Asha ji’s voice. What are the lyrics?
I had them just here. “Kya tum mere ho” “Mere hi rahoge” “Haan main tumhara hoon
tumhara hi rahunga” – There we go, right?
– That’s a collaboration, there you go. – We’ve got it.
– So, there’s also.. What’s the pig handler story?
That was in ‘Babe,’ right? – Yeah.
– You’re credited in ‘Babe’.. – A very famous Australian film
called ‘Babe.’ – Yeah. So it’s about this pig this talking pig. And I was in the agricultural shed
at school, in high school looking after all the animals.
That was my job at lunchtime. And, you know,
you feed the pigs and do whatever. And there were 52 pigs used in ‘Babe’ because they’d train a little piglet up and it’d grow too big
and they couldn’t use it in the next scene and then they’d have
to bring the next pig in. And apparently, I must have
looked after one or two of the pigs that have come from the ag shed. And then ‘Babe’ came out. And then right at the end,
it said Brett Lee, pig handler. – So I’ve got a credit.
– In a Hollywood blockbuster. Can you imagine?
It’s very funny. – That’s amazing.
– That was my claim to fame for a while. And look at how diverse
your life has been, right? So you can measure up suits there’s a pig handler – there’s.. – Then go again
smash on the cricket field. Leave aside cricket. Right? There’s a musician there’s a Hindi singer. You do some music-related work – with underprivileged kids
as well, right? – Yeah. Yep. – It’s in India.
– So you’re doing that in India? Yeah. So it’s called Mewsic.
M-E-W-S-I-C. And it’s a play on words
for “Mew” “Sick”. – Yeah.
– So sick children that we can teach them music
and music therapy. To me, when I learned how to play music that was the part of the jigsaw puzzle
that had been missing through my whole life. ‘Cause I’ve grown up
with music in my family. And with mum playing, dad reckons..
Once again m.. Dad reckons he played the flute,
mum reckons he’s full of it. I’ve grown up, touch wood, with no issues but a lot of children don’t. So I wanna allow those children
to have close to a normal life as what they possibly can. And India’s been great to me,
it’s shown me some amazing places and the love I get from India. So it’s my right,
I think, to put back into India. Because you can’t keep
coming somewhere for 25 years and keep take, take, take,
take, take, take. It’s selfish. You gotta put back in.
But I wanna put back in and help out. – That’s beautiful.
– Oh, it’s.. There’s a saying that “Giving is the most selfish thing in life
’cause it makes you feel good.” – And it’s true.
– Wow. Binga, thanks so much for doing this. Mate, this is awesome!
I’ve really enjoyed this. You know what, I would go as far as to say,
this is the best interview I’ve ever had in 25 years. – Oh, really?
– I mean that, yeah. – Yeah!
– ‘Breakfast With Champions,’ it rocks. And I’m gonna promote
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